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by **Jim B** » 24 Jan 2015 09:13

The Missus was talking to some of her Russian friends last night and it appears one of them was driving in her BMW in Paphos when another car swerved in front of her and then jammed the brakes on causing her to run into the back of it. Three men then jumped out and started threatening her and demanding money for the damage; sensibly she locked the car doors and called the police. On seeing her on the phone the three jumped back in their car and drove off; that's as much as I know at the moment so just a warning to be aware this scam has arrived in Cyprus.

Jim

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by **darrow** » 24 Jan 2015 09:58

A similar thing happened to MOH in U.K., waiting on a side road, the land rover in front started moving, so MOH did too, they suddenly stopped and our car just nudged them! it didn't even knock the mud off their tow bar! We knew nothing more until some months later shopping around for a new car insurance, we were informed there had been a claim against us. It transpired this person had claimed damages of £100 but we hadn't been informed. When we got a requested copy of the bill, the garage didn't exist! Naturally we were angry that the insurance company hadn't approached us first. They obviously knew their way around the system.

by **Pickles** » 25 Jan 2015 07:33

http://in-cyprus.com/limassol-fake-acci ... de-e18000/

by **Rigsby** » 25 Jan 2015 11:13

Simple, don't tailgate like a Cypriot & you will be able to stop. In any circumstances where you hit the car in front, it is your fault. :shock:

by **lion** » 25 Jan 2015 11:40

qwertyuiop wrote:get a dash cam, super home sell them cheap

You can get an app for your mobile also.

by **panoscouse** » 25 Jan 2015 12:27

McIngy1 wrote:

There is a "certain" town in England where you are 10 times more likely to suffer a whiplash injury than many just as densely populated urban areas , but I won't mention which one in case I upset any Scousers out there

Won't upset me as Liverpool is a City. Us Scousers know how to look after ourselves.

I notice the lowest claims are in Scotland. Probably due to the lack of impact injuries when riding an Aiver. :))

by **Karlimready** » 25 Jan 2015 12:35

Hi theres an app you can get called Autoguard to run on your iphone phone its vey good only £1-76 for pro version or you can use it free but with adds it got me out of trouble once.

by **lincoln** » 25 Jan 2015 14:54

Rigsby wrote:Simple, don't tailgate like a Cypriot & you will be able to stop. In any circumstances where you hit the car in front, it is your fault.

When anyone is TAILGATEING me or my wife we gentlty go slower and slower. Interesting watching them jam on there brakes in the rear view mirror and then we gently get back up to 50. :mrgreen:

by **jagwheels** » 25 Jan 2015 15:29

An incident over here not long ago (sadly one of many) a 38 seater bus faced the same scenario. 38 whiplash injury claims & all but one got compensation. They found he wasn't even on the bus at the time :shock:

To protect the possible identity of the claimants rights I refuse to disclose their origin except to say it was a place not instantly recognisable :?:

That forward looking camera idea is starting to appeal

by **lofos-jan** » 25 Jan 2015 17:33

But in the event of an accident, is video admissible now as evidence because it wasn't before?

Jeanne

by **Jim B** » 26 Jan 2015 05:27

Jeanne

I don't know if it's admisable in court but would suggest that it would point the Police or insurance in the right direction.

For Lincoln and Rigsby.

As I said in the my first post, the lady driver wasn't tailgating, the other car swerved in front of her and hit the brakes; a totally different scenario.

Jim

by **Jimmy Greaves Legend** » 26 Jan 2015 09:04

Rigsby wrote:Simple, don't tailgate like a Cypriot & you will be able to stop. In any circumstances where you hit the car in front, it is your fault.

Tailgating isnt the cause of these scams... these lowlifes pull out in front of you and slam their brakes on...google it!

by **RedWoody** » 26 Jan 2015 10:23

There is a "certain" town in England where you are 10 times more likely to suffer a whiplash injury

They may claim it's whiplash, more likely just a stiff neck from looking up the league table! :))

by **Maramike** » 26 Jan 2015 13:57

qwertyuiop wrote:get a dash cam, super home sell them cheap

If you are talking about 'Superhome Centre' in Paphos............they don't!!!
I spoke to staff from the Assistants up to the Manager this morning and they said they have never had them.
Do you mean maybe Paphos Homemarket or somewhere else?

by **Jim B** » 26 Jan 2015 15:00

Maramike

They do sell them at Lidll now and again though they can be bought off Amazon.

Jim

by **Maramike** » 26 Jan 2015 17:44

Jim B wrote:Maramike

They do sell them at Lidll now and again though they can be bought off Amazon.

Jim

Thanks, but I did not notice them there this morning either.
Yes, I have seen them on Amazon but was interested to know if they were available locally.

by **Rigsby** » 27 Jan 2015 19:54

Jimmy Greaves Legend wrote:
Rigsby wrote:Simple, don't tailgate like a Cypriot & you will be able to stop. In any circumstances where you hit the car in front, it is your fault.
Tailgating isnt the cause of these scams... these lowlifes pull out in front of you and slam their brakes on...google it!

It might be worth checking with your insurance company and or the traffic police. Although you may not agree, in every circumstance where you hit the car in front, you are at fault. Any accident assessor will tell you this.

by **lofos-jan** » 27 Jan 2015 20:18

Maramike I found this one on Direct Deals but it looks like the offer is ending soon. Not sure about the make. http://www.directdeals.com.cy/index.php/frontend/campaigns/single/2068/Kamera-Autokinitou

The other place I would try is Nicolaides in Paphos town - he usually has the latest gadgets.

Jeanne

by **Maramike** » 27 Jan 2015 20:36

Thanks for the info Jan.
I have ordered one from Amazon (I did not try Nicolaides although I have bought electronics from there before)

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 28 Jan 2015 17:59

...and what kind of demographic would that be? :shock:

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 28 Jan 2015 18:50

Ah, I'll say no more =))

by **emgee** » 17 Feb 2015 19:04

I've been watching the "Car crash" programmes on TV lately and it seems that an in-car camera is the new must-have accessory. Does anyone know if you can buy them in Cyprus? Mind you, I saw one advertised in a TV Magazine which almost obscured the left-hand side of the windscreen.

Alan

by **Jen** » 17 Feb 2015 19:09

Alan, this was discussed quite recently:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56835&hilit=car+cameras

by **mo watt** » 17 Feb 2015 19:52

i have been looking for them too .... think amazon maybe the best but still looking ...saw the link here also.

A need necessity... more like covering yourself when some ...... idiot ..... hits you and insists its your fault when you and the insurance company knew it wasn't .... actually I told him to get out of my face or I would punch him ....not ladylike and not like me but to be honest it was a very stressful day and was only 9am lol!!!!

by **Maramike** » 17 Feb 2015 23:21

Bought one of these last week.
Works ok so far and has several features the more basic ones do not. Good picture quality.
Amazon now say they do not sent this to Cyprus, which was not stated when I ordered. They were quite happy to courier it with a home address in Cyprus, but not to a P O Box. Arrived within 2 days!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/E-PRANCE-Arriva ... prance+dvr

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 18 Feb 2015 00:00

Maramike wrote:Amazon now say they do not sent this to Cyprus, which was not stated when I ordered. They were quite happy to courier it with a home address in Cyprus, but not to a P O Box. Arrived within 2 days!

Hi Mike, that's almost certainly because it's "Dispatched from and sold by EPRANCE" - one of Amazon's vendors, and not Amazon itself. Some vendors do deliver to Cyprus, but many don't.

by **Jim B** » 18 Feb 2015 05:35

I have a GS8000 HD 1080P Car DVR Car... on my truck and am getting one to fit on my wife's car. You can buy ones with forward and rear looking cameras as well. I personally think it's a good buy.

Jim

by **nosher** » 18 Feb 2015 08:15

I have the Transcend DrivePro 200 that I got from Amazon. Picture quality is very good but if you go to www.techmoan.com there's a video review of this plus a number of other dash cams.
Well worth having, especially over here.

by **emgee** » 18 Feb 2015 09:18

Jen

The topic then wash "vehicle crash scam", not "in-car cameras", however, they were mentioned. Seeing the TV programmes brought the use of cameras to my attention more than I would have thought so before.

Definately interested now.

Alan

by **Devil** » 18 Feb 2015 10:39

This subject has been discussed extensively on the Eastern forum, including the police position:

http://www.easterncyprus.com/viewtopic. ... ht=dashcam
http://www.easterncyprus.com/viewtopic. ... ht=dashcam

The following show the result from my dashcam in favourable and unfavourable lighting conditions. This device gives details like GSP time and position, speed etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFgeKQiicQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maivgANPIno

by **Maramike** » 18 Feb 2015 13:16

Happy in Cyprus wrote:Hi Mike, that's almost certainly because it's "Dispatched from and sold by EPRANCE" - one of Amazon's vendors, and not Amazon itself. Some vendors do deliver to Cyprus, but many don't.

Understood and agreed - But, in this case the item specifically showed 'This item can be delivered to Cyprus'. I input my Cyprus PO Box address and the order was accepted. After two weeks I was still being told that the item would be delivered. Only when I asked them what was going on was I told it could not be delivered to a P O Box, but could be to a house address (??). I gave my address and it was delivered to UPS in Paphos two days later.
I notice the details for the item now say it cannot be delivered to Cyprus, so clearly confusion between the supplier and Amazon!
In answer to someone's point about obscuring vision, this model is very neat and with it located on the windscreen behind the rear view mirror does not present a problem.

by **andy01424** » 18 Feb 2015 14:02

you find them all over ebay ,most run on micro sd,just remember to turn it off if accident happens as they record in a loop,we have them as CCTv in cabs here bought mine for as little as £13

used the post to world wide option
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... _PrefLoc=2

by **number6** » 18 Feb 2015 19:49

The cam I bought was 10 quid off ebay , didn't expect much at that price , but it does a good job .

On the 1080 setting it used 3gb for half an hour recording. I only have a class 4 card at the moment , which worked ok , but they do recommend class 6 to class 10 .

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/klxQvOjCiDo

by **juliesewell** » 18 Feb 2015 20:21

It's huge

by **number6** » 19 Feb 2015 08:15

[quote="juliesewell"]It's huge :shock:

Don't worry julies , it's not that big , well the wife says it's not .

Actually I agree I picked a bad example vid , here is how it looks in my car and a sample vid taken in Paphos yesterday in the rain .

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/NuH3b5gN6vk

by **juliesewell** » 19 Feb 2015 10:53

Ah, so it's behind the mirror

So do you have to switch it on to record for every journey you make as you leave the house, just in case of accidents?

by KG » 19 Feb 2015 11:01

If it is any good it should start and stop recording with the ignition - see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWOq62cY6U for a typical device. This model has been superceeded but the video is a good one.

by **juliesewell** » 19 Feb 2015 11:18

That's a nice looking one KG, although a tad more expensive than the one number 6 said he bought

by **LectricShox** » 19 Feb 2015 11:20

If it's of any interest, my Android phones satnav app (Sygic, includes Cyprus)) has a built in camera recording feature for the same purpose. Have not tried it out yet, but will shortly to assess it.
Pretty sure the same is available for iphone.

:idea:

by KG » 19 Feb 2015 13:50

juliesewell wrote:That's a nice looking one KG, although a tad more expensive than the one number 6 said he bought

I posted the link primarily because of the quality of the video. Take a look at some of the other videos on the same guy's blog. You may also recognize some of the locations around Manchester.

I think I may go forhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wmIyD1fM4M&index=3&list=PLFB79814F24001328

by **juliesewell** » 19 Feb 2015 14:15

That's a pretty cool little piece of kit and thank you for mentioning it had Manchester featured in there

Spent an enjoyable few minutes looking at some of my old haunts where I haven't been since before 2004.

by **number6** » 19 Feb 2015 16:30

juliesewell wrote:
So do you have to switch it on to record for every journey you make as you leave the house, just in case of accidents?

No , as has been mentioned it stops and starts with the ignition .

It is for sale on amazon for £11 , but they say will not deliver to cy , it's called "Super Legend HD Video Car Dash Vehicle Recorder "

by **thefixer** » 22 Feb 2015 18:48

I bought mine from amazon in the uk great little device for the price £13 will be bringing it over in march.Definately needed on roads over here

by **Brenmar** » 22 Feb 2015 19:51

Bear in mind that the reason we no longer display tax disks in cars is because it is an offence to have anything that blocks your view through the windscreen.

It is quite possible that your footage of the accident will do nothing more than provide the evidence for you to be prosecuted for blocking your screen.

If you are going to get a dash cam I would suggest looking at something a little more discreet.

by KG » 23 Feb 2015 07:42

Brenmar wrote:Bear in mind that the reason we no longer display tax disks in cars is because it is an offence to have anything that blocks your view through the windscreen.

While that was the speculated reason, I suspect it was more to do with the fact that the traffic police all have computer access to the register of which vehicles are taxed, so the disc becomes redundant.

Do you know of anyone who has been prosecuted for having a tax disc in the windscreen? I have been stopped several times for roadside checks since the change and the police didn't even comment about the fact that my tax disc is displayed. They just checked my registration details with their hand-held devices.

Even if you are correct, many of the cameras around are small enough to fit behind the mirror. The Mobius camera I have on order is not much larger than a key fob.

by **number6** » 23 Feb 2015 08:40

Who says they block your view ?

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 24 Feb 2015 15:21

Just saw this on Yahoo. Perfectly illustrates the advantage of having an in-car camera. https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/world-s-worst-drivers/driver-forced-off-road-trucker-105837499.html

by **JeffH** » 27 Feb 2015 12:05

And this is probably why in-car cameras are apparently compulsory in Russia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RAaW_1FzYg

by **Jim** » 28 Feb 2015 07:29

E-PRANCE® New G1W Novatek 2.7" Car Dashcamera

Just bought two E-Prance dash camera's for our two small motors, not had a chance to fit them as yet but will do so soon and review them here, one point Amazon mostly would not deliver to Cyprus, obviously I did find a seller who would do so on Amazon, unfortunately it cost about a tenner more to buy from them, a problem we have living here and using Amazon, have to say they sent using UPS two day service, excellent!, by the way I also ordered two 32GB HC SD micro cards, don't as mine came with both..

Utube warn buyers that there are copies that seem cheap on EBay they tell you how to see the difference, easy way is the real E-Prance cameras have HDMI output sockets to plug into your TV...a warning I heeded.

UTube review of the E-Prance dash cam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0VeVaOykAM

order..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/E-PRANCE-Novate ... car+camera

by **emgee** » 28 Feb 2015 10:34

Thanks Jim. I'm delighted that I raised this issue. The installation shown was a bit quick, does it plug into the cigar lighter? I quite liked the look of the RAC one on offer.

Alan

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