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by **ming2007** » 20 Nov 2014 20:28

Has anyone heard of this? I have found it on the Internet. It looks good. The mag 250 box is 99€ and the monthly installments look to be at competitive prices. Interested in your opinions!

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by sr » 20 Nov 2014 23:04

Yes i find very good, and Mark is very helpful if you have any problems. The subscription channels and catch up improve every month. I had a 30 days trial with the 254 mag box on amazon.co.uk From justiptv

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 21 Nov 2014 01:29

Pretty much the same line-up of channels as NTV on their Hosting Plan 6, except €5 a month cheaper (€25 compared to (€30), so no reason to switch.

by **Jim** » 21 Nov 2014 06:58

4TV also available locally is even cheaper with even more catch up and films about €21 a month...

by **Jim** » 21 Nov 2014 09:31

Just as Sky did to us.....& The BBC/ITV etc. Happy to pay for one of these providers...FilmOn is also hooky but hey we all have a peek in there too.

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 21 Nov 2014 10:13

My money's on NTV out-surviving most, which is why we will stick with them, even if they are a little dearer. Can't be bothered with chopping and changing each time a new, unproven provider comes out.

by **Jim** » 21 Nov 2014 13:42

Granville it is not legitimate never has been, it will eventually close if the courts get their way, it is illegal broadcasting and why many UK TV companies are trying to close it down, but I also have to say I hope it stays on for those who cannot afford to pay for a Mag sytem..

I feel a third cheaper Lloyd is worth the change, all the original suppliers I have tried are all still in business, so who has gone? I would be interested to know.

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 21 Nov 2014 13:57

One service provider went down a few weeks ago. Can't remember the name, but it was posted on CL as having given up. There'll be a thread in this section somewhere. Was it UKiptv?

I apply the same principles in business Jim. When we find good suppliers who perform well, have a good product and give us good service, we stick with them. We give them our loyalty and in turn we expect them to give us their loyalty. We have been working with most of our suppliers six to eight years. Quality over price any day. Can't be doing with chopping and changing from one supplier to the next, just because someone else comes on the scene who is a little cheaper. Until NTV let us down badly we'll be sticking with them, but am always interested to know what else is available.

by **Jim** » 21 Nov 2014 14:38

IPTV it appears it did not go down, or rather it has started up again after some technical problems, I used IPTV deals but did not like the chap who ran it very much, have to say the one I have been with for several months now is reliable and put's up many new films and TV series almost daily, and a bargain too.

Like you Lloyd I hope for a long and happy time with my chosen provider, Sky was getting very expensive and every day we lost a channel or two, in the end HD went off, £65 a month was stupid money for such a limited amount of watchable TV, I do not think anything out there comes even close to the Mag and it's programing, long may it continues for those of us who use it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUx1gOWyeVo

by **number6** » 21 Nov 2014 19:43

Hudswell wrote:Whatever JIm, all I know is that It is a legitimate registered Public Limited Company....what part of that do you not understand?..it is a multi million pound organisation....and has agreements and contracts with other organisations worldwide...

So do you beleive Filmon pays a fee to the BBC and ITV and others to rebroadcast their program's ?

If yes , show us the proof .

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 22 Nov 2014 01:48

Granville, I'm not sure why you're becoming pre-ocupied with the PLC thingy. About twenty years ago I sent up a PLC in the UK. That was me and the wife working from home. It costs a chunk more than setting up a Ltd Company, has increased reporting requirements and a higher intial capital commitment; it has nothing at all to do with the legitimacy of it's operation.

Want to set up a PLC in the UK? See here: http://www.companyregistrations.co.uk/public-limited-companies.aspx All you need is two directors and £12,500.

As to Filmon's legitimacy (or otherwise), read the following four paragraphs from this article: http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/aereos-defeat-filmon-vows-stay-business/. My bold.

To make things even more complicated, FilmOn initiated a transition of its services from its antennae-based technology to a new broadcast method it calls “Teleport Technology” in February. Teleport Technology provides users with access to a network of hundreds of thousands of antenna-equipped remote desktop computers, ostensibly renting access to the devices instead of the antennae, which creates even more questions about its legality.

Even as it vows to go legit, however, given FilmOn’s legal history, it is unlikely to remain out of hot water for long. The FCC hasn’t yet made a clear designation of which licensing fees will pertain to over the top (OTT) services such as FilmOn, and the company’s even more brazen Teleport Technology is likely to be under fire at any given moment. In fact, a lawyer for the broadcasters, John Hune, told Gigaom’s Jeff John Roberts on Monday that FilmOn is “definitely not a cable company,” and can expect another lawsuit.

Whether or not FilmOn’s enigmatic leader, Alki David, is really serious about creating a new type of “cable” provider with his service, or simply looking to be a thorn in the side of broadcasters, remains to be seen.

Perhaps the biggest lesson to take away is that technology is moving faster and in more complicated ways than legal precedence, and even the experts in the field don’t seem to understand where the lines of the law come down. Even after Aereo’s defeat, the future of exactly how we will get our entertainment amidst the litany of power struggles and rapidly evolving technologies is anyone’s guess. FilmOn, and others, seem ready and willing to push the industry into uncharted territory".

From this article it would appear that Filmon are no more legit than any of the other service providers we use here in Cyprus. I'm sorry Granville, but to suggest otherwise is simply wishful thinking and moral justification on your part".

by **ming2007** » 22 Nov 2014 08:15

The package I am looking at includes greek tv (for my hubby) plus the uk channels for 19€ per month. Plus the box is 99€. .I have been quoted 140-150€ for the box and 290€ per year for the subscription (paid up front) locally. Am just wondering if you'd is the supplier that local businesses here are using. They must be using someone I guess and adding on extra charges to make a profit. Does that seem realistic?

by **Brenmar** » 22 Nov 2014 09:14

Ming

All of these providers are operating entirely outside the law and are selling you stolen tv programming, so they are all adding on charges to make a profit.

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 22 Nov 2014 09:34

But Martin, as it says in the article which I posted above: "Perhaps the biggest lesson to take away is that technology is moving faster and in more complicated ways than legal precedence, and even the experts in the field don’t seem to understand where the lines of the law come down".

And as jonos1 pointed out in the article which he posted on CL last week:

General principle

The Directive establishes the principle that Member States must ensure freedom of reception and that they may not restrict retransmission on their territory of television programmes from other Member States.

http://europa.eu/legislation_summaries/audiovisual_and_media/l24101_en.htm

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 22 Nov 2014 13:27

But Granville, as the exerpt from the article I posted illustrates, Filmon are having to come up with all types of inventive ideas to by-pass the copyright and licensing issues they face. The illustration cited in Para.1 was: "ostensibly renting access to the devices instead of the antennae, which creates even more questions about its legality".

Noneless many service providers in the USA feel they have sufficient evidence of misdemeanour to want to spend huge sums taking Filmon to Court. If Filmon were whiter than white in their business model, why would these providers do this?

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 22 Nov 2014 14:43

Oh dear, Granville, sounds as though you're about to start sliding down the same slippery slope as the rest of us :-s

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 22 Nov 2014 18:14

Tut tut Granville! Siding with the devil! Next thing is he'll be selling you his forbidden fruit: Sky Discovery and Sky Sports channels...and he'll have you sign up for the full package.

Repent now, before ye be forever damned =))

by **mjw** » 22 Nov 2014 19:24

Ming,
for the Greek channels, if you have xbmc, use Lambdas repo on fusion, all greek channels, films etc

by **number6** » 24 Nov 2014 16:16

This is interesting from Infomir , the maker of the mag box.

News Warning: Infomir is Strictly Against Piracy!
Published on 15/04/2014
Infomir learned about the fact of illegal interactive TV services provided to users by:

- FUTUBOX

- US/MEX IPTV

- MY IPTV UK

- MUNDO IKS

The MAG Set-Top Boxes appear to be involved in using content without the rightholder’s consent.

Governed by the current legislation, Infomir warns the OTT service providers that illegal content distribution and usage is prosecuted under copyright law.

All service, support and sales related requests for those companies, their distributors and customers will be denied.

We strongly recommend our partners, clients and distributors to abstain from business contacts with the above mentioned services or from any other pirate resources in order not to violate the law.

No mention of NTV .

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 24 Nov 2014 18:35

They're just covering themselves. Bet they'll be happy to sell their Mag250's to anyone that wants to buy them, regardless of purpose or intent.

by **number6** » 24 Nov 2014 19:40

But the boxes we all use are all under pressure , do not think it is just the mag box .

As I have posted before .

"The team behind the popular XBMC/Kodi software is attempting to distance their brand from those who associate it with movie and TV show piracy. As a result, eBay auctions that advertise devices loaded with piracy-focused third-party addons are being removed, much to the disappointment of sellers."

So fill your boots with whatever box you use while you can .

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 25 Nov 2014 01:49

Still loads of re-sellers advertising on ebay and Amazon.

The genie's out of the bottle; Infomir (and others) will always find a way of getting their product to market. They ain't simply going to throw their hands in the air and give up.

by **Pafos** » 02 Dec 2014 12:14

Where can I buy a MAG250/254 in Paphos? any ideas? Do they come pre-loaded?

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 16:37

I see the UKIPTV seems a good package with more catchup on than ntv. Also Ntv seems to keep havinproblems, eg, BEIN is down again just when i want to watch some games., Also quite a few canels seem to buuffer too much.

I have a 8mb internet (landline version) and mag 254.

Anyone had experience of UKIPTV or UKFrance tv?? Both which seem cheaper and as good as ntv??

by **number6** » 04 Dec 2014 18:10

I use uktvfrance and have done for over 6 months , great service , never had a problem.

But as I have said before only use the basic service , the sky part is of no interest to me.

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 18:25

number6

Thanks for the reply. So u access the videos and If so what are they like. Also the catch up?

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 04 Dec 2014 18:44

gobold69 wrote:Also Ntv seems to keep havinproblems, eg, BEIN is down again just when i want to watch some games., Also quite a few canels seem to buuffer too much.

Your experience is different to ours then. You can hardly slate it just because one channel out of over a hundred is down" just when you want to watch some games". If you check on NTV's website they did say that their BEIN channel was down temporarily a few days ago. At least I think that's what they said when I was on it earlier.

We experience very little buffering. Whenever we do we re-cycle the Mag250 and from time to time the CYTA modem/router and that seems to sort things out. We get far better reception and reliability than the 'good old days' when Sky was around.

by **number6** » 04 Dec 2014 19:05

gobold69 wrote:
Thanks for the reply. So u access the videos and If so what are they like. Also the catch up?

No the basic service does not include videos , but catchup is for 2 weeks and is very good , enough to keep us entertained.

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 19:33

Thanks for the info on the uktv service. I've asked a few other questions ans they wil give me a 2 day trial

To happy in cyprus. I'm not slating it just staring my experience. Quite a few Chanel's are often down or buffering. Also Looking at their website you can see the regular problems they have

Also at almost €32 which is what Is with currency charges I just want value for money and reliability

As for power cycle. I saw your previous posts on this and following your advice reboot my Cyta router at least once a week but have to do the mag box more. Thanks for the tip as it's saved me throwing. It out the window lol

by **number6** » 04 Dec 2014 20:03

To gobold , just looked at uktvfrance site , and true enough I should be getting the movies , so I have used the live chat to ask them about it , they will get back to me.

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 20:14

number6 wrote:To gobold , just looked at uktvfrance site , and true enough I should be getting the movies , so I have used the live chat to ask them about it , they will get back to me.

Thanks let me know how it goes. I'm just about to get a 2 day trail for Justiptv. So will report what I think. So far there support (email only) is very good

by **number6** » 04 Dec 2014 20:25

To owners of the mag250/mag254 , there is a warning about a recent update , I have done it on my box with no ill effect .

Here is what they say.

We’ve been made aware of an issue arising from the latest software update on the Mag 250 & 254 boxes which is having a negative effect on the boxes streaming capacity.

The latest software was applied on November 13th 2014 and is version 0.2.18-r8-254 & 0.2.18-r8-250.

The update is causing channels and video playback to freeze and jump on a regular basis.

Infomir the manufacturers are currently working on a fix for this issue and will upload to boxes as soon as this has been created. Unfortunately it’s not possible to remove this software update from your box and the only solution is to await the new patch.

You can find out which software version your box is running by doing the following: Access System Settings >>Device Info. You can also visit Device Info via the Settings section of your TV menu.

We apologies for this inconvenience and hope that the issue will be resolved soon.

by **number6** » 04 Dec 2014 20:40

To gobold , had a response already from uktvfrance and am now getting VOD , so thanks for pointing it out to me.

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 20:47

6
No problem. Enjoy and let me know how good it is Or isn't!!

by **gobold69** » 04 Dec 2014 23:46

Ok got the 2 day trial for Justiptv. Easy to set up so I can swap between it and my ntv. Fired it up and WOW

Much faster Chanel changing. More Chanel's working very few, 2 just 2 buffering. More Chanel's with epg and far more with catchup. Loads more films and much more from this year.

Also like the sports with catchup and hd for most sky sports and a lot of other sports Chanel's.

And it seems the record feature works as that didn't on ntv

So far I'm impressed. But I have 2 days and there is footy on sat so will be testing the EPl Chanel then.

I'll report back when I've used it. More but so far seriously impressed. If it Carrys on like this I will get the subscription save 7 euros a month and be happy. But it's early days so will let u know

by **ming2007** » 18 Dec 2014 21:10

Go bold how are you liking the justiptv? What box have you put it on?

by **gobold69** » 18 Dec 2014 21:21

Mag254. And very impressed so far. Prefer it to ntv

by **geoffreys2** » 19 Dec 2014 07:12

How much do you have to pay for it?
Geoff.

by **gobold69** » 19 Dec 2014 07:33

€25 per month. If you email then you can get a trial to test

by **ming2007** » 19 Dec 2014 08:57

Did you already have the mag box or did you get it from them?

by **gobold69** » 19 Dec 2014 10:31

Ihad a mag20 i got here, but got the mag254 via ebay when on a trip to the Uk.

To add juptiptv was easy, they send simple instructions and when i boot up i get the choice of justip or ntv, so if i change back if i want

by **Happy in Cyprus** » 19 Dec 2014 15:30

Hi gobold69. What are the main differences between a 250 and a 254. In other words, is there any merit in upgrading the box?

Also if you have both ntv and justiptv on your 250, does that mean you have two monthly subscriptions? Finally, when you say you prefer justiptv to ntv, in what way is it better?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

by **gobold69** » 19 Dec 2014 17:16

I only have a mag 254 now. I have both subscriotions on it. When it boots I get the choice

If you look at a previous post of mine I listed what I thought if Justiptv when I got it. And this week again more new current movies were added

by **wanann** » 20 Dec 2014 21:30

How do people find Justiptv after a few weeks of running?
How is their support?

by **number6** » 21 Dec 2014 10:52

It looks like justiptv are closed until the middle of Jan , this from there web site.

"Merry Christmas & Happy New Year
We are now closed for any new tests for this Year
We will Be back on Jan 15 "

by **gobold69** » 21 Dec 2014 11:09

odd!!1 Try to email them

by **number6** » 22 Dec 2014 10:12

After trying a few other servers just recently just to see what's available , I decided to go back to justiptv .

Even though there website is closed for a short while over Xmas , they responded to my email yesterday (Sunday) and quickly got me re activated .

So well done justiptv.

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