TITLE DEEDS APPLICATION FORM - clarification

[Petit Mousse]

Good morning Nigel. I have just completed the form - ONE form for 2 owners (husband and wife). Before taking it to the Paphos L.R. I have reread one of the comments, dated 11 Sept., under your 9 September article "Apply for your Title Deeds now". It reads "Experience of someone who went to the L.R. In Larnaca ... Please note that there are SEPARATE forms for one or two owners ...".
Would you please clarify Nigel - should joint owners apply on SEPARATE forms? For IPT we were required to apply separately. Also, does the L.R. require several copies of each relevant receipt and Contract of sale?
Many thanks in advance Nigel and "enjoy your Hawaiian holiday"!

[Nigel-Howarth]

Bonjour from Hawaii - they have lovely coconuts here

It seems that different Land Registry offices are operating the system in different ways. It seems that Larnaca want two forms - one for each purchaser. Maybe someone who has applied in Paphos can answer this for you?

You must take ORIGINAL documents and a copy for the application (two copies if Paphos LR also want two forms.)

They shouldn't need the Contract of Sale, but I suggest that you take this along with you together with your passports (and a copy of the relevant page).

Note that the 'Registered Contract of Sale No' on the form is the number written on the receipt from the LR when your Contract of Sale was deposited.

Regards,

[J B]

I seem to recall that Nigel said somewhere that the Paphos office staff had all been issued with hats bearing the slogan DILLIGAF

Is this correct?

[DavidinKarmi]

DILLIGAF

[Petit Mousse]

Many thanks Nigel et bon retour a Chypre! I will wait to see if someone has an answer concerning the Paphos L.R. It would seem that, as usual, each office makes up its own rules.

[Petit Mousse]

Hello Nigel. I think it appropriate to update you on the rules at the Paphos L.R. We went there yesterday and were pleasantly surprised as we only waited for half an hour to see one of two very pleasant young women dealing with the applications. She required only one Application Form for joint ownership. We had made a photocopy for ourselves on which we added the references she added to the original. The original documents, plus one photocopy of each, we were asked for were: passports, the Developer's statement of account proving we had paid in full and the receipts for each payment. She checked each photocopy against the original, stamped each page, and returned the originals to us. The Contract of Sale wasn't needed as a copy was in the L.R. file. She asked if we would be in Cyprus for the next few months and as we won't, wrote our e-mail address on the form for future contact ("in English" she said!).
She informed us of the status of the Developer's file at the L.R. and urged us to contact them as they haven't yet transferred all the necessary paperwork to complete the Division. I think I have read somewhere that the Developer can be fined if he holds back any documentation?
I hope the above will help others who have yet to lodge their Application.

[Nigel-Howarth]

Thanks for the report Petit Mousse - I hope it will encourage others to apply.

And the Land Registry can impose fines if people fail to provide the information it requests within a stated period of time.

Regards,

[Petit Mousse]

Good morning Nigel. How does the following apply?: "The Land Registry can impose fines .... within a stated period of time." It is now 4 months since we filed the application for our Title Deeds and the L.D. gave us the AX number. I wrote to the Developer on 7 October urging him to provide the L.R. with further documentation. The L.R. told us that a private surveyor (Mr Marios) had been assigned to our estate to take measurements. As nothing has been done for 4 months, have you any idea what is meant by "a stated period of time"? Yesterday the L.R. consulted our computer file and told us they are still waiting for the surveyor's report. Our impression is that neither the Developer nor the L.R. cares how much time it will take to issue the deeds and no-one is being pushed or fined for non-compliance of the new laws. Have you any ideas as to what we could do to accelerate the procedure? I hope you have now returned from the UK in good health. Best regards.

[Nigel-Howarth]

Kalimera Petit Mousse

Assuming you applied for your deeds under the 'trapped buyers' law, the fine system comes into play when the Title Deed is available.

As your Title Deed hasn't been produced yet the fines are not applicable - and as your developer has no involvement in the surveying process (it's the responsibility of the Land Registry) - the Land Registry isn't going to fine itself.

Regards,

[Nigel-Howarth]

Hi Petit Mousse

Further to my earlier reply I had a very positive meeting with two of the DLS' head honchos yesterday at their Head Office in Nicosia. I had pre-primed them with a list of questions - all of which they were able to answer.

I'm currently writing an article that I hope to publish next week with all the details of how to apply for the deeds, the checks the Land Registry carries out before a transfer takes place.

I hope to finish drafting the article tomorrow or over the weekend. I will then ask one of the head honchos to check it before I publish to make sure I haven't made any howlers.

To date the DLOs have accepted some 8,500 applications.

Regards,

[rlbenson]

Hello Nigel;
I've just come across this thread... If you have indeed published the article on Land Registry checks for title deed issuance, could you please send me or post the link? We are back in Cyprus again and putting together more info on the title deed delivery process, especially post LR making them available to the developer.
Thanks!

[Nigel-Howarth]

Hi rlbenson

You'll find the article at http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers. ... d=00126681

Regards,

[rlbenson]

Thanks Nigel! Excellent, clear info as usual.
Cheers...
Roger

[robandaly]

What about this little beauty then!!
Received our letter from LR informing us to go and pay the transfer fees and get our deeds in the next 60 days. Called LR they said they would give me the sum to pay by Thu. On Fri I called them as they had not contacted me, only to be told " sorry there is a problem, your developer is in the next office saying he is objecting to all of us on our estate getting our deeds". He did not object in the 45 day period, so how can he now was my reply. I was told it now needs to go to Nicosia for them to decide. That was a kick in the teeth. They are all at it!!

[Nigel-Howarth]

Hi robandaly

The exact same thing has happened to friends of mine in Limassol. They were advised it's an island-wide problem and there's a meeting scheduled on 25th May in Nicosia to resolve.

I have no further information at the moment.

Regards,

[Nigel-Howarth]

Hi robandaly

I've spoken with a couple of other residents on your development. It seems that your Mukhtar says that he cannot charge you the local property tax because you do not have your deeds.

There's a meeting at the Limassol DLO on 25th May with some people from the DLS in Nicosia to discuss.

Regards