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Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 05 Apr 2014 13:44

OK so the Prime Minister wants the press to leave Miller alone, because she spent 32 seconds saying that she was sorry for 'making mistakes' , ( or being found out ) =)) =)) which led to her, could it be called, defrauding the UK tax payer out of anything from six thousand pounds to forty four thousand, depending on which report you read, but will repay six thousand, poor thing !

How come if Joe Bloggs does exactly the same, he will face a court room, and could end up in jail ?

Thoughts anyone ?

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby geoffreys » 05 Apr 2014 16:15

Not a benefit cheat - just a common cheat and crook. As you intimate anyone else, ordinary working folks like you and me, would be facing a custodial sentence.
How come she admits she was overpaid by £45K on the second home that was in fact for her parents at taxpayers expense,
but only has to pay back £5.8K?
Cameron, whose speech earlier today to the conservative's Spring Conference was nothing short of inspiring and hopefully
will end any hopes Labour have of getting back into Government, should now bite the bullet and dismiss her.
Even her own Party supporters in her own Basinstoke Constituency Association on SLY News today seemed to think that way too.
I can't see her getting re-elected as an MP, even if re-selected as their candidate..
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P.S. I've nailed MY colours (BLUE) to the mast, would like to know YOUR's!
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 05 Apr 2014 17:23

Geoff

Used to be blue, now purple. I'm anti tax payers money going down the drain, and finding it UNBELIEVABLE that Cameron is supporting this woman who received, and kept, tax payer's money that she was not entitled to, (fraud in my book), and gets away with 'sorry'. As you say if it was you or I we would facing a custodial sentence, I think now that the law must be changed to make the receipt of tax payer's money by fraudulent means, including 'mistakes', custodial for everyone no matter who they are. No-one should be above the law, but apparently some are.

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Nigel-Howarth » 05 Apr 2014 18:26

I agree - she should resign or be removed from office.

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby lewisestwo » 06 Apr 2014 06:06

When will we learn? She won't be sacked. And most of the others are breathing a huge sigh of relief as the spotlight is on someone else.
Why should we pay their mortgages????? It was their choice to run for office, they were not forced to. It would be cheaper in the long run to build or take over a building and convert it into bedsits for those who live to far to travel to London every day. Every day? Sorry, I mean every time they decide to go to the House which ain't often looking at the attendance showing on the Beebs parliament channel.
Why should we pay for their staff. Why not a pool of secretarys who can be called upon when an MP actually feels the need to answer a constituents question.
And why should they travel first class on trains and planes?
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby geoffreys » 06 Apr 2014 08:49

Firefly


"Purple" - thanks for telling us.
How do you feel about the possibility of a Blue + Purple coalition next time?
I think it would be preferable to any other possible coalition or a fresh election (assuming no outright overall victory by either
Labour or the Conservatives).
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 06 Apr 2014 15:01

Geoff

Blue and Purple is a possibility I think, I just wish I could have some faith in Blue, as right now I don't. Maria Miller is guilty of fraud in my view, and to have the PM supporting her beggars belief. This woman even refused to give information to the independent enquiry regarding her finances, she also got one of her staff to telephone the offices of The Telegraph, with veiled threats to reporters. She should be facing criminal charges but she isn't, the whole thing stinks, Cameron is a fool to think that mud doesn't stick.

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Postby geoffreys » 06 Apr 2014 15:12

You are right, I myself did not vote for Cameron. I wanted Hague to stay on, but I respect his reasons for resigning when he did.
He blamed himself you see for losing the General Election.
Unless Cameron does the necessary in this matter, the whole future is doomed, and we will be even more pleased we are
in Cyprus. Unfortunately my children are still in UK, I worry for them.
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 06 Apr 2014 18:05

Geoff

It's too late now for Cameron to back track, he has given this woman his support, no matter what he does now, he has no credibility in my eyes. Watching Sky News today it seems that many others share my view.

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As for homes in London for MPs, someone else suggested that the Olympic Village should have been made into flats for MPs to use whilst they are in London, problem solved, but no the fraud is still up and running, and now supported by the PM !

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby emgee » 09 Apr 2014 12:38

If she is sorry.....give us our money back!

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 09 Apr 2014 16:02

Alan

She's only sorry that she's been found out in my view, and that she has to pay back £5,800 out of the £44,000 she has had ! :ar!

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Nigel-Howarth » 09 Apr 2014 16:25

She's resigned - it took her long enough!

See http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26951464

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Jen » 09 Apr 2014 17:35

I personally think the online petition that was started certainly didn't help, the numbers apparently that signed in such a short space of time were massive.

This is the e mail today from them:

This morning, 09 April 2014, five days after the petition began; Maria Miller MP resigned from her ministerial post.
The public support for this petition has been overwhelming. Of course this is just the first step. Maria Miller still hasn't paid back the full £45,000 and the expenses system still needs reform.
In addition there are questions that need answering about the Committee on Standards. They disregarded the Parliamentary Commissioners recommendations after a 14 month investigation, letting Maria Miller off with literally a slap on the wrist.
I hope this petition has shown that the power of people power via social media is a game changer. This can rightly be seen as the first ministerial resignation via pressure from social media.
Thank you once again for your time to sign and promote this important subject matter. I hope going forward this petition will help contribute to achieving positive change.
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby geoffreys » 10 Apr 2014 08:44

Well she has resigned, and the Party can get on with the main job of running the Country and continuing to get economic growth.
However:
1. She should pay back the other £40K.
2. She should make sure she pays capital transfer tax on the sold property.
3. Basinstoke Conservative Constituency Association should de-select her.
4. The Conservative Party should cancel her Party Membership and withdraw the "whip". It would then be up to her whether she
stayed on as an independent MP, or stepped down and forced a by-election.

Every barrel has the odd bad apple, Labour had a few who finished up in prison for fiddling expenses.
At the end of the day the whole system of payments to MPs and Peers needs total reform - but there seems
to be no appetite for doing it!
I wonder why??
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 10 Apr 2014 15:06

Sky News last night said that Miller would giver her £17,000 redundancy payment to charity ! What redundancy payment ? To be redundant your post cannot be filled for a start, and why should she be getting anything for resigning, it just adds insult to the tax payer's injury.

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby lewisestwo » 10 Apr 2014 17:55

I suppose this latest caught out thief is still an mp? I use the small case as I personally have nothing but contempt for thieves. At the next election I wonder if she will stand and be re-elected like the other female thief who was caught out, Hazel Blears.
These thieves should be sacked, lose all pension rights and be made to pay back every penny. And now she is getting redundancy??????????? My mind is totally boggled!!!!!!! When will we get someone who SACKS these people, who totally overhauls the "expenses" system these people enjoy. Or at the very least tax them!!!!!!
Oh well, dream on. :roll:
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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Nigel-Howarth » 10 Apr 2014 19:25

Don't feel sorry for Miller

    The Independent Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards had earlier recommended Miller repay £45,000.

    If an employee fiddled £45,000 their employer would sack them on the spot and take them to court.

    All Miller had to repay was £5,800 and make an apology to the House.

    Now she's resigned she's due £17,000 tax free Cabinet redundancy resettlement benefit minus the £6k she had to repay plus the original £45k she 'got away' with = £56k – so she's quids in AND she's still an MP!!!

I wonder if they have any vacanies???

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Re: Maria Miller - Is she a benefit cheat ?

Postby Firefly » 11 Apr 2014 15:54

I do not condone the obtaining of tax payer's money by fraudulent means, no matter by whom it is done, but I can understand that when benefit cheats see what this woman has got away with, why they resort to dishonest tactics. If our government is run by people such as Miller, and supported in that fraud by the Prime Minister, why should Joe Boggs not try the same thing. You can just see it, Mr Bloggs, you defrauded the tax payer out of £2000.00, now, say you're sorry and repay £200.00, oh by the way, now we have caught you out, here's £1000.00 because you won't be claiming anymore ! =)) =))
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