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Postby Amazon » 24 Feb 2016 21:26

A Bill goes before the UK Parliament this Thursday in an attempt to change the voting rules for British Citizens who live outside of the UK
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http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2015-2016/0043/16043.pdf
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Sinbad » 24 Feb 2016 21:37

Apparently this is just step number 2 out of 12 steps .

Glad to see Internet voting gets a mention , it has to happen eventually .
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Aargent » 25 Feb 2016 11:49

I have just gone through the process of renewing my postal vote, noticed it said that they would send me the Form a week before the Election. So, seven days to get here , be filled in and sent back to the UK. Aye right!
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Mike Strand » 25 Feb 2016 17:45

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When it comes to Parliamentary & local UK elections it is one week. which I think is to do with the closing date for people to complete their nominations, but for a simple YES, NO vote, they could send the forms out now, but I'm betting they wont!!

I did complain about the timescale & was told 'nominate a proxy in the UK'
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 25 Feb 2016 18:22

I am very pleased to see this new bill, as was registered to vote in the UK until debarred recently as a result of the '15 year' rule. I always used to vote. I hope that the Prime Minister will suceed in his attempt to get this member sponsored bill through parliament. I feel strongly that as British expats resident abroad,we should be allowed to participate in this vote.
Like it or not, whether the UK stays or leaves the EU could affect us. Particularly those of us who are working here. If the UK leaves the EU we will no longer be classed as EU citizens, we will become 3rd country nationals. As are the Filipinos, Syri Lankens and all other non EU nationals living here. This would mean that to be able to work, you would probably have to apply for a work permit. So no longer automatic.
That is just one facet.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 26 Feb 2016 08:28

I received an email yesterday from the Electoral Services Officer of our County Council. Can anyone spot the problem ?

'..Postal vote packs will be sent out 2 weeks before the referendum so they would need to get to you and back to us within this timeframe...'
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 26 Feb 2016 08:41

Dee

'..This would mean that to be able to work, you would probably have to apply for a work permit. So no longer automatic.
That is just one facet...'

The real issue would be whether those Brits who have taken advantage of the EU free movement and have secured jobs in their respective EU countries would then have to reapply for their jobs following an exit from the EU. There would almost certainly be nationalists in many, if not all, EU countries who would see this as a very populist cause to bang on about Brits taking jobs from local people.

The one thing that expats would definitely lose if the UK left the EU would be the European Health Insurance Card as this is an EU scheme. Double Taxation Agreements wouldn't change as they are bilateral agreements.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby darrow » 26 Feb 2016 09:25

Aargent wrote:I have just gone through the process of renewing my postal vote, noticed it said that they would send me the Form a week before the Election. So, seven days to get here , be filled in and sent back to the UK. Aye right!

we never received our last forms at all and the time before that came 5 days before the vote. no chance to get back in time. we have just sent off proxy vote for all elections after asking friends if they would vote on our behalf. here's hoping online voting arrives sooner than the voting forms!
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Sinbad » 05 Jun 2016 12:18

Just to update this old thread from February .

The bill did not go through .

" Latest news on the Overseas Voters Bill 2015-16

This Bill had its second reading debate on Friday 26 February 2016. The Bill was withdrawn at the end of the debate and will make no further progress.

This Bill was presented to Parliament on 6 July 2015. This is known as the first reading and there was no debate on the Bill at this stage ."

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/201 ... oters.html
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 05 Jun 2016 18:42

What a shame! It is awful that all expatriates are not allowed to vote in the referendum, if it results in a Brexit, the consequences may affect us more than the average resident Brit living in the UK. Some of the people I spoke to have no clear idea which way to vote. They say that they feel that they are being deluged with propaganda particularly by Boris and his cohorts!
I have just finished a week spent in various parts of the UK, there seem to be confused people. Some people who are voting for a Brexit are doing it because they think that leaving the EU will cure the UK's immigration problems...
But it serms that resourceful potential immigrants are now trying to cross the channel in leaky boats hoping to land on some isolated beach or tiny unmanned harbour... How the stretched UK Border force will be able to counter this is another problem?
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 06 Jun 2016 11:40

Even if the people vote to exit the EU I doubt very much whether the UK will actually leave the EU as an Act of Parliament is required and those MPs who support Brexit are a very small number and as such don't have anywhere near enough votes to pass the legislation.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 06 Jun 2016 12:09

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It would be either a very brave or foolish Parliament who defied the wishes of the People should there be an exit vote majority - what would have been the point of a Referendum with all ts expense should the result then be denied ?- let the people decide was the criteria not "oh we dont agree with the result so we will ignore it"

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Dohajane » 06 Jun 2016 13:57

Received our Referendum voting papers on Thursday sent them back recorded delivery the same afternoon.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 06 Jun 2016 14:51

Rita & Mcginy1

Democracy will be upheld when the representatives of the people (MPs) vote in Parliament on an EU Bill.

The question is whether those MPs of the Remain camp do an about turn and vote with the Brexit camp. Some might but many won't. Would the Brexit MPs have enough votes to pass an EU Bill ? Probably not.

A Brexit vote in the Referendum would not be the end of conflict between politicians but more a start of or a continuation of the 'debate'.

A stalemate could easily develop into a constitutional crises as the PM and his cabinet resign with calls for a general election during which the SNP demand their own Referendum all the while the markets get spooked and the value of the pound depreciates against all major currencies with a major rise in interest and mortgage rates.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 06 Jun 2016 15:39

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I agree that Cameron (and probably most of his Remain cabinet colleagues) would have to resign. There may also be a reasonable call for a General Election. Before or even after a General Election I don't believe the Brexit MPs even with their own PM would have enough votes to pass an EU Bill.

A political stalemate would persist whilst the markets remain in shock and turmoil, the pound sinks against other currencies and interest and mortgage rates subsequently rise causing grief to the home owning population. And all this and SNP calling for their own referendum.

Another EU referendum would not be a surprise.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby keving » 06 Jun 2016 16:20

If the vote is Brexit, I expect Cameron to do the decent thing and resign. But at the same time I would expect him to do the honourable thing and call a general election so that the British public don't have an unelected Boorish Johnson foisted upon us as Prime Minister.

To my mind, having a new Conservative government led by BJ or Gove, outside of EU influence, is far worse than the UK remaining in the EU.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 07 Jun 2016 17:02

Those expats who are expressing such vehement views in support of UK leaving the EU may yet regret their views. If the UK does vote for a BREXIT, it remains to be seen what impact this may have on the lives of British expats who live and in some cases work in EU countries.
Here in Cyprus, EU residents are treated more or less in accordence with EU regulations, which means that in the main Govt depts and officialdm treat us reasonably well. If Britain leaves the EU our status can at least arguably change to being classfied as 3rd country nationals. This was the situation when my husband and I came here in 1999. Then immigration could be a nightmare, immigration officials could be very difficult, there was no appointment system and no guarantee that you would be seen by an immigration officer that morning. You needed to join a queue at about 6am, in a bid to ensure that you would be seen. Very few English expats under retirement age could get a work permit unless married to a Cypriot or workng in some specialised field for which there was no suitably qualified Cypriot candidate. A few people were deported, a midnight knock on their door, a night in police cells, no chance to call a laywer, they could be on a flight back to the UK that afternoon...An errant Brit would be treated the same way as unfortunate Filipinos or Syri Lankans for example.
I'm not joking.As an EU citizen, most things for us have improved considerably.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 07 Jun 2016 18:54

alewfin wrote "Democracy will be upheld when the representatives of the people (MPs) vote in Parliament on an EU Bill..."

It was the representatives of the people (MPs) who decided to give the people their own voice by calling a Referendum on the basis of "let the people decide" Furthermore it is not only the House of Commons (MPs) who decide on the final outcome of any Bill brought before them. Parliament consists of both Houses of Parliament (Commons and Lords) and also requires the assent of Her Majesty the Queen. It has been a long time since a Monarch declined to give assent to the wishes of Parliament but I feel pretty sure Her Majesty would have a pretty firm and poor view should the peoples' wishes be so totally ignored. Her constitutional role gives her the power to advise, warn and caution Her Prime Minister and it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall as and when David Cameron goes for his weekly audience to inform her he is totally ignoring the peoples' wishes.

Dee wrote "Those expats who are expressing such vehement views in support of the UK leaving the EU may yet regret their view" Well Dee I dont consider any view I have expressed regarding my views to be "vehement" I have joined a debate to give my opinion on the matter after very deliberate consideration- nothing to do with how it will affect me personally - but rather how it will affect my family etc and my country of birth. Last time I looked I was allowed to do that. However you are painting a picture of a vicious minded Europe who will reek revenge on the UK if she dares to step out of line and decide to go her own way if that is what the people choose. Some democratic Union that is then would you not say? I voted to join the EEC not the EU the first time around because as I have said in previous posts I considered a Free Trading Area between us and Europe to be a good thing and I still do and the second reason was because Charles DeGaulle, acting how you are now suggesting all of Europe will, did not wish the British to be members - in my book that was a good reason to vote In I heard the same arguments then as I am now to stay in and I have made my mind up. Scaremongering about police making midnight calls are not very productive and, may I be permitted to say, Cyprus for one is still a Commonwealth Country even if the other countries in mainland Europe are not.

May I also point out that of the 28 member states only three have never been governed by Communism, Fascism or a Dictatorship and they are Sweden, Ireland and the United Kingdom.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bi

Postby kili1 » 07 Jun 2016 20:01

Rita,
If you read my post carefully you will see that having arrived to live here in Paphos in 1999, Cyprus was not yet an EU member. That did not happen untill 2003, some 4 years later. I described briefly what it was like trying to register at the Immigration Dept before 2003. There is quite a difference to this day in the way EU citizens and nationals from other non EU countries are treated here. If you read the local papers you will know how badly Syri Lankans and Filipinos for example can be treated or nationalties outside the EU block. If the UK does a Brexit we will no longer be part of the EU or necessarily protected by their laws on free movement and immigration for example.
We will have to wait and see.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 07 Jun 2016 20:57

Rita,

The referendum result is not constitutionally legally binding.

Constitutionally the House of Commons is supreme and as such can deal with the referendum result as it sees fit.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 07 Jun 2016 21:24

alewfin wrote "Constitutionally the House of Commons is Supreme" - no it is not Parliament is supreme. Parliament being the Commons, Lords Spiritual and Temporal.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 08 Jun 2016 01:01

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Be assured I did read your post carefully as I do all posts. I am aware when you first came to live in Cyprus and when Cyprus became a member of the EU. I first came to Cyprus in 1969 as the wife of a regular serving serviceman and Paphos was just a sleepy little fishing village with no proper roads. Life back then was not always very pleasant but I will not go into that. Neither do I need to read newspapers to know how certain nationalities are sometimes treated but I dont just turn away - in my own very small way I do what little I can to assist. Certain members of the European Commission (none of whom were elected) have already started to make threats of punishment for the UK should we leave. Now I dont know about you Dee but I can be pretty certain that the good people of Britain dont take kindly to being bullied or threatened and it weakens the EU's case to rely on such tactics. Nor do I consider that EU laws are superior or more protective of us all than those of our own country. Where were those protective laws for the good people of Cyprus when the Troika came to town and ordered the virtual confiscation of the Cypriot peoples' money held in banks.

Anyway it is clear you and I have to agree to disagree.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Wee Stumpy » 08 Jun 2016 05:31

You put forward an excellent argument Rita and I am very much in agreement with you.
Dee are you not wrong in saying Cyprus joined the EU in 2003? We bought our property here in 2003 and Cyprus was not in the EU then and the currency was the Cyprus Pound.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim » 08 Jun 2016 07:21

Good morning all..

Please can I ask members to keep politics as requested in the membership terms off the main forum, we do have an appropriate section for this, and I am well aware the EU referendum is a very topical hot subject, but please no more in the main forum,

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 08 Jun 2016 07:23

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Being someone who has dealt with Immigration both prior and post EU Membership I can only agree with everything Dee posted. A visit to Paphos Immigration is a totally different experience from a visit to Nicosia which is where all TCN applications are processed. I don’t really want to say much more as we are presently in the sixth month of our Yellow Slip renewal application. A period in which my wife has been unable to leave the island. Prior to joining the EU we would wait about a year for the same process.
Another point is that people keep referring to the Commonwealth and its values; now the likes of Rwanda (an ex French Colony) and Mozambique (Portuguese) which is on the verge of renewed Civil War are both member so it appears it has moved away from its original intentions.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 08 Jun 2016 08:19

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You are right in what you say but from a practical point The Commons is the supreme constitutional body of the land.

The Commons do not have to accept the vote from the Referendum. It is purely advisory.

In the event of a Brexit, MPs will have a say (and vote) on the terms of the exit from the EU. Given that the majority of MPs are of the Remain camp I would imagine that the House will become very lively and it has already been suggested that what the Leave camp want may not be what the Leave camp get.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 08 Jun 2016 09:52

alewfin

That is not what the Prime Minister said last evening.

I do not wish to fall foul of Jim on this or any other topic so I shall desist as and until it finds its way into the Political section.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Sinbad » 08 Jun 2016 10:12

It is in the political section , it got moved .
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby lewisestwo » 08 Jun 2016 13:22

alewfin wrote:Rita

You are right in what you say but from a practical point The Commons is the supreme constitutional body of the land.

The Commons do not have to accept the vote from the Referendum.??????????? It is purely advisory?????????????????.

In the event of a Brexit, MPs will have a say (and vote) on the terms of the exit from the EU. Given that the majority of MPs are of the Remain camp I would imagine that the House will become very lively and it has already been suggested that what the Leave camp want may not be what the Leave camp get.


The Commons do not have to accept a democratic vote??? Why then are we bothering to vote if they can overturn our wishes????
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 08 Jun 2016 14:50

It has been reported quite frequently that reason for a Referendum is to silence those MPs in the Conservative party who have been agitating for years to leave the EU.

It's in the very nature of the peculiar UK democratic process that Referendums are not legally binding. They can be politically binding and as such fall into the domain of MPs and Pariliament to change existing or introduce new Acts of Parliament pertaining to the EU.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby alewfin » 08 Jun 2016 14:57

The other peculiar aspect of the UK constitutional process is that the will of the democratically elected MPs can be rejected by the unelected House of Lords and even more remotely by the unelected Head of State.
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 08 Jun 2016 16:10

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I have much sympathy with both you and your wife regarding your immigration trials and tribulations but I do not see how they relate to my post regarding that of Dee You are beset by problems personal to you and your wife for reasons personal to you which are neither my business nor that of anyone else. That said you, I and every other person are obliged to meet the legal requirements of entry to other countries as set by that particular country. You however appear to be saying that because the waiting time for Cyprus to process a particular application has been cut to 6 months since the country entered the EU is an improvement under the EU rules. Firstly I do not understand why an application should take 6 months to process, keeping your wife a virtual prisoner as it were as to quote you "she is/was unable to leave the island".

I am something of a traveller myself having circumnavigated the world on 4 occasions (two of which whilst living in Cyprus) and 4 trips to Russia in the last 2 years. I have and as far as I am aware everyone else requires a Visa to enter many of the countries to which I have travelled. I held a permanent visa for the USA but on a visit just post 9/11 a smiling pleasant immigration officer informed me "Mrs Sherry this is the last time you will be able to visit the USA with this visa" and promptly stamped cancelled in red block capitals across it suggesting I might be able to apply for another when things settle down. I never did do that because I can apply on line and have done so several times without problem. Incidentally my other visa did not permit me priority entry I had to stand in line forever like every other non US citizen. As we also now require a visa for Australia I too got that on line. There is a very nice gentleman with an office opposite Paps in town who deals with immigration, visa and other matters who obtained my Visas for China, India and Russia within 3 days thus saving me the hassle of travelling to Nicosia and visiting embassy after embassy and ensuring I had produced the correct paper work. In all the years I have travelled through Europe (pre and post EU) I have never required a Visa to do so.

In an ideal world Jim there would be no borders or requirements for Visas but we dont live in an ideal world far from it - there are a lot of nasty, even evil people, out there whose sole aim is to do harm to those who do not agree with them and some of those who do.

If those unelected Commisoners in a pique of anger if things dont go their way insist the people of the UK will have to have Visas/Work Permits that then can work both ways to everyones detriment.

Visas to me would be no problem other than if I wished to fllp over to Paris for a birthday lunch with friends and even then it would just need planning or go elsewhere.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 08 Jun 2016 16:40

Rita,you are obviously a very wordly and well travelled person, but what I wonder if you undersand is the way that the Cypriot Immigration Dept can work. Before the advent of the Cyprus/ EU membership the Immigration dept here seemed to be a law unto itself. As an Alien we were all subjected to whatever treatment they dished out, even if you were British. Third world as they see it, nationals are subject to a very different procedure to what you can expect when classified as an EU citizen.
My posts have referred to what we experienced at Immigration pre the EU.
Time will tell what will happen here if the UK goes for a Brexit..... Remember that the Cypriots may or may not treat us the way you are used to now if our country is no longer in the EU. While in the EU we enjoy free movement and the right to live and work in anothe EU country.
Let's hope they will.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby juliesewell » 08 Jun 2016 17:23

Cyprus joined the EU in May 2004 - we had arrived in Cyprus just a couple of months before that.... but what Dee has outlined as to the way British expats could be treated if it's an "out" vote is highly likely.

Things will not be the same as they were in the years leading up to the EU entry and the most likely to be affected are the British (who will then be non-EU members) who are working or are seeking work and who are reliant upon their job to stay in the health system.

Likewise, nobody knows what will be kept or which of the advantages expat residents currently hold will be rescinded. It's all a big minefield because nobody will give a straight answer in the government departments.

If it was me and I was still living in Cyprus as a British expat - I would definitely be voting to stay "IN"
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 08 Jun 2016 17:42

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No Government Department will give you a straight answer because they themselves do not know as neither does the government. No-one with the exception of Greenland has left the EU before and due to ts small size had very little impact. All the statements and forecast (and that is precisely what they are - forecasts) are a shot in the dark as to what may happen. It only requires one little blip and hey presto the forecasts are out of the window as we have seen re interest rates, the economy etc. It is a leap in the dark and those of us who are voting should weigh up all the pros and cons not just as it will affect us personally but for the future of the country and our families.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby rita sherry » 08 Jun 2016 18:07

Dee

Seriously I do understand even though in Cyprus I have not personally experienced what you describe but I have elsewhere. It is down to attitude and lack of training. Put in a uniform with a set of rules and regulations and some people think they are God. I came to Cyprus many years ago under very different circumstances and not exactly welcome. However coming here to live is a different proposition - I regard myself as a "migrant" and do not seek privilege because I am British (that in itself can be a handicap given the unfortunate reputation we have managed to acquire in recent times) and no different than those who come from other parts of the world. I personally do not judge people on either the colour of their skin, their beliefs or culture but rather how they behave towards everyone they meet. It does not require an organisation to achieve that - treat people as you would be treated and by and large all will be well. As to free movement as I said in my other post I have travelled throughout Europe on business and pleasure and have never required a Visa. I dont know whether you are aware but Switzerland - a non member of the EU but trades under rules -, has just announced it is abolishing Free movement.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby juliesewell » 08 Jun 2016 18:44

Very soon we may all need a visa and a right royal pain in the you know what that will be!
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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 08 Jun 2016 18:51

Rita

With respect, my wife is just going through the normal process of renewing her Residency for TCN's (which we will become if there's a Brexit), no personal problems this is just the way it is. They inform you in Nicosia it is a maximum six month process and it does take the full six months; before the EU it took a lot longer. The rules for Residency were much stricter prior to Cyprus joining the EU and many have since gained Residency which in earlier circumstance wouldn't have been granted, it's only due to EU legislation that many have had the opportunity to live and work in Cyprus.


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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 08 Jun 2016 19:07

Jules and Jim B., You are both right. Some expats who have decided to vote for a Brexit may yet live to regret it. What is good for UK based Brits, may have the opposite effect on expats in some countries.
It is true that the regulations for those foreigners who applied for residency here were much tighter then. I remember my husband had to make a quick transfer of capitol to our Cyprus bank account to comply with what the immigration rule stipulated. This was done a few days before our appointment at Immigration. We also had to have prvate health insurance as we were then below retirement age.

It was also,very difficult to get employment here, unless one had a Cypriot spouse or could set up a business with a Cypriot partner, or had a job with an 'off shore company'.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby kili1 » 08 Jun 2016 19:19

Jules and Jim B., You are both right. Some expats who have decided to vote for a Brexit may yet live to regret it. What is good for UK based Brits, may have the opposite effect on expats in some countries.
It is true that the regulations for those foreigners who applied for residency here were much tighter pre 2004 here.. I remember my husband had to make a quick transfer of fundsl to our Cyprus bank account to comply with what the immigration rule stipulated. This was done a few days before our appointment at Immigration. We also had to have prvate health insurance as we were then below retirement age.
It was also,very difficult to get employment here, unless one had a Cypriot spouse or could set up a business with a Cypriot partner, or had a job with an 'off shore company'.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 08 Jun 2016 21:36

Keith

Cyprus is not in the Schengen agreement so therefore does not have an open door policy as such though it does allow people with Schengen visas to enter the country but again the passport is stamped for a limited entry period. If people with a Schengen visa enter Cyprus they have technically broken the Schengen rules by leaving from a different port of entry and could be refused entry back into the Schengen area.

I think Julieswell last sentence sums up the situation for anyone who actually lives in Cyprus.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 09 Jun 2016 08:05

Keith

I understand what you are saying but we live in Cyprus; it's as well posting about Immigration into Turkmenistan as that has the same effects on living in Cyprus as Immigration into Switzerland. As Dee has said there have been many benefits for Expats moving to Cyprus now we are both members of the EU; the qualifying criteria bar has been lowered which has allowed people to live and work here whereas prior to membership they would not have been able to do so. Like Dee I qualified to live in Cyprus prior to the Island joining the EU; things that are simple now like bringing a car here from the UK was a nightmare; I know I tried it and had to return the car to the UK rather than pay the extortionate sum I was being asked for. Buying stuff from Amazon or other retailers will incur import duties that we presently don't have to pay.
These are only a couple of the things we take for granted, the little luxuries from the UK that makes our lives even better will become expensive as local import taxes are added to the price. Buy anything from outside the EU and we are charged, they are even charging for items posted through Switzerland these days.

If we live and (or) work in Cyprus we should think with our Cyprus Head on and not our British one.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 09 Jun 2016 09:31

Keith

With half my family being Cypriot I'm personally well aware of the problems affecting the island and the locals though would think most of them are down to bad management by the previous government rather than anything the EU did. The housing and pricing boom started Pre-EU (early nineties if I remember correctly) and the banks failing was due in part to being overstretched with NPT's and buying bond issues of a bankrupt country though you don't need me to tell you that.
With my Cypriot Head on I had a local company install net metering on our place a couple of weeks ago and on Monday we have a local company coming to drill a new Soak away and then we have another local company supplying and fitting eight new AC Units over the next week or so, we try in our little way to do our bit for the local economy.



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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 09 Jun 2016 10:19

If I remember correctly there was a limit on how many properties a foreigner could buy and also on the land size as well until joining the EU. As usual we digress; I agree with Dee and Julieswell that for any British person who lives and works in Cyprus it is beneficial for the UK to remain in the EU.

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Re: Overseas Voters Bill

Postby Jim B » 09 Jun 2016 12:28

Believe me Keith, there is nothing in this life I lose sleep over. :)

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